Reviews
Fits: HONDA GROM, HONDA MSX GROM, HONDA MONKEY125, HONDA MONKEY125
Slipper clutch
I wondered how much effect it would have on my 125 Motorcycle, but I was surprised to see a significant difference in the way the engine braking was applied around 2nd, 3rd and 4th gear. I was wondering how much of an effect it would have on engine braking in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gears. View detail
Fits: HONDA GROM, HONDA MSX GROM, HONDA MONKEY125, HONDA MONKEY125
OEM is so poor.
I was disappointed with the quality of the pressure plate in the Reinforced Clutch Kit, so I decided to use the SlippersKit.
I read a comment somewhere that the Spring suppression Cover cushion is too tight, but I was able to tighten it without anxiety because it is tightened with 6 pieces.
I can't confirm the Slippers feature because it's too cold to ride it.
I think it was a good buy.
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Fits: HUSQVARNA TE310, HUSQVARNA TE250, HUSQVARNA TC250
Best Slipper clutch
Suter Clutch's Slipper clutch was also installed on the Motorcycle used in Race.
This time I bought it for HUSQVARNASM250R.
I usually use my Motorcycle only for city driving, but it has been a while since I have participated in a ride at Circuit.
I bought it because I thought that if I was going to run on the circuit, I would have to put in a slipper clutch and run on the slide.
The performance is, of course, outstanding, but the design of the body is also very impressive, as shown in the before and after photos.
The Suter Clutch comes with two types of springs for setting the BackTorque, but I use the one with the higher Rate.
For circuit driving, a low rate makes the resistance too low.
In actual driving, you can downshift without bliping and release Clutch without hopping without Slide driving.
Since there is no need for unnecessary operations, I think it will lead to safe driving and TimeUp.
Although it is a bit expensive Parts, I think it is an excellent slipper clutch among various slipper clutches.
It is Clutch that can Recommendation without mistake.
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Fits: HONDA GROM, HONDA MSX GROM, HONDA MONKEY125, HONDA MONKEY125
Grom JC92, BackTorque, it escapes firmly!
I introduced the Slipper clutch to commemorate the passing of the High-compression Piston and the return to FlatPiston.
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I have a Large Motorcycle with an STM Slipper clutch, but there are only a few scenes where the Slipper clutch works well. I was rather hoping to get one for my Grom.
Our Grom uses a Large capacity Internal Pressure Control Valve, so the emblem is not as big as it should be and the BackTorque is able to release a good amount of pressure, but when the engine is running at high RPM and then suddenly decelerates and downshifts to 2nd gear, the rear tires are pinging. When I run the engine at high RPM and suddenly decelerate and downshift to 2nd gear, the Rear tire starts pinging.
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Installation is easy, no Special Tool is needed. About 2 hours of work.
The WhiteBlack instruction manual is as difficult to read and understand as ever in Mukawa, but I think it is Large sturdy even for beginners if they follow the steps.
What was particularly difficult to understand was the order in which the washers were inserted. It is impossible to understand unless you read the text carefully.
The Instruction Manual uses cross-sectional diagrams in the explanation, but this makes it even more difficult to understand.
Washer between Lifter and Bearing is two layers of unknown intent. Please note this.
In the conventional clutch assembly procedure described in the service manual, the clutch inner ring is assembled up to the Lifter and then secured with lock nuts, but this kit instructs the user to secure the half-finished clutch inner ring with lock nuts before installing the Lifter. This kit instructs you to fix the half-finished ClutchInner with Lock nut before installing the Lifter. The reason for this is that the center hole of the Lifter does not fit into the socket for fixing the Lock nut (as shown in the attached photo).
Therefore, when assembling Lifter, you will be working in a horizontal position.
Careful tightening of the screws is necessary to ensure that the spring is properly seated in the Lifter and that the clutch plates are properly aligned. Please be careful.
The Lifter is also not as sturdy as KITACO's reinforced Lifter, it is more of an OEM thin-walled and crackable construction. Mr. Mukawa, I think you should improve the construction procedure as well.
The Clutch Disc (made by Clipping Point) was still in good condition, so we used it as is.
I have a testRANed impression after installation,
First of all, Clutch braking is still the same as before!
At first, when the clutch was disconnected, or at the moment of connection, there was an uncomfortable feeling that the return of the clutch lever was stuck, but after running a few kilometers, it seemed to get used to it and the discomfort disappeared.
The effect of the Slipper clutch is that it allows the BackTorque to escape well.
It also worked when I applied the emblems at street level.
When I downshifted the engine at high RPM and applied strong embracing, it became easier to drive as if the BackTorque was applied in a mild manner.
The Tire never hopped pinged or locked up from start to finish, and we are glad we installed it.
I don't know about durability. I am a little worried about what will happen if I use it hard, especially on mountain passes and circuits.
But I don't think it will break if it is just city driving or Touring.
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Fits: HONDA GROM, HONDA MSX GROM, HONDA MONKEY125, HONDA MONKEY125
Slipper clutch kit
The driving has really become Mild. View detail
slipper
Easy to install. I think the replacement is outstanding. View detail
Gives a Premium Feel to the Gear Changing on the Monkey 125
About quality and texture: I am happy with the quality of the slipper clutch kit from SP Takegawa, the clutch center, pressure plate and lifter plate are cast from aluminium with the clutch cam being made from steel. About the feeling of use: The 6 bolt design clutch lifter plate allows for a even application of pressure to the clutch disks and plates and the combination of the special pressure plate and clutch cam gives a premium feel to the gear changing now. Great addition if you like to ride the Monkey hard and fast. Products to buy together: A clutch disks and plates upgrade kit would also be desirable to purchase along side the slipper clutch kit for better bite but not absolutely necessary if the OEM clutch disks and plates are in good condition. Difficulty of installation: The process to install takes about half an hour if you already have access to the clutch, be sure to keep the plate level as you tighten down the bolts so not to apply too much pressure to one point of the clutch lifter plate .Not difficult to do. Cost performance and comparison with other products: High costing but you are getting a very special clutch kit for the Monkey 125 as compared to the cheaper Kitaco clutch upgrade that includes a lot of the same parts plus upgraded clutch disks and plates but it is not a slipper clutch design. About shipping and packaging: Sea frieght is my preferred method of shipping due to the lower cost and it is fantastic that it has returned as an option once again so I can put my money toward parts and not high shipping costs. Webike kept me updated on the status of my order up to when it shipped. The parcel arrived within the expected date range and was well packaged with no chance of the part being damaged. Any concerns, cautions, or advice when purchasing: If you are wanting to use heavier clutch springs then I would not advise installing the cast SP Takegawa lifter plate but to purchase a machined version elsewhere. View detail
External Slipper clutch on 2021MT-09SP to solve emblem problem?
I bought a 2021 MT-09SP to return to a Large Motorcycle after 8 years, but I was concerned about the strength of the embracing, so I installed the T-REV Internal Pressure Control Valve. However, when I needed to decelerate quickly and continuously downshifted, the Rear would hop ping and the ABS would activate several times.
However, since the OEM also includes the FCC Assist & Slipper clutch, I looked into the possibility of adjusting it like the R1, etc., but there was no information. I searched for the STM lineup, but there was no product.
I had used the STM made one on my previous FZ1, but the SUTER made one was in uncharted territory. I was about to give up when I found a SUTER product (part number:004-15009) for the 2018-2022 model year on the website of SUTER in the home country of Japan. I contacted WEBIKE and found that it could be ordered, so I purchased it.
However, since the sole import agent is Mr. motozen, the product that arrived was handled by motozen and translated (please enter here was attached to the Manual, so I made full use of the translation software and was prepared for the Japanese Version, so Large change was saved.
Moreover, when I asked a question, I told them that I had purchased the product through WEBIKE, and they answered my question very politely.
The installation process is basically based on the Manual, and detailed parts assembly can be done without any particular problems by referring to the Parts List.
The question we had this time is that the board Spring is stacked in two pieces, and the Quantity:I thought that the 1pc. might be a spare, but the 2pc. was the right choice.
Also, the method of measuring Gap is described, but there was no mention of deducting the thickness of the Washer if there is a Washer in the disChestBolt, so if the Clutch version is new and the Gap exceeds the proper range, please consider the thickness of the Washer.
If there is no trouble, it takes less than an hour to replace an OEM clutch, even if you read the manual for the first time. It is a good idea to take pictures of the position of the pull rod before replacing the clutch cover.
After the replacement I did some light city driving and the emblematic strong problem was solved.
Even if the downshift is a little bit rough, it will decelerate smoothly and will not jerk around at low speeds.
If you want, you can pull it up to high rpm in first gear and decelerate Smoothly in the same way with AxelOff.
*(Doing too much of this will cause the Clutch board to wear off faster.)
While the problem has been solved with regard to the emblem, the OEM's Assist function will be eliminated, so Clutch operation will be heavier.
*A possible countermeasure would be to convert to a lighter clutch holder, but since there is a problem with the two-stage switch for the Cruise Control, it may be quicker to strengthen the grip of the Left arm.
Also, because it is Slippers, the Clutch plates wear out faster and the Oil is more likely to get dirty, since the strong embrasure is being released by the semi-clutch.
Not many people would bother to put in Other Brand Product when they already have OEM Slipper clutch, but it would be one of the solutions for those who are concerned about the strength of the embellishment at high RPMs, etc.
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Jadar improved
It was giving me problems with the judder at Start, but when I changed to the Suter Clutch, everything was improved.
You can also make adjustments to the BackTorque, so you can change the settings by Circuit.
It is set to the Manufacturer's recommendation because it has not been used much yet, but it is very good.
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